What can go wrong, I'm just having my engine rebuilt,
by a professional???
(What can go wrong? The short
story.)
12/26/00, Updated: 03/25/2001, 02/25/02, 03/09/02, 04/06/02, 04/14/02
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PART 1
In this story, I am not going to talk about, what I spent; However,
I could have bought a used nice car for the same money spent. Would I do
it over again, NO.
I would have don it differently, the minimum, then bought a newer car.
My buddy, my mentor, Jeff (not the Jeff from the previous page), said he
wouldn't, if he was I; I said, no problem %=) .... Jeff said, that
it would, no mater what, go over budget. (Jeff was right, I won't tell
him so, It WILL go to his head!!!!)
I decided to rebuild my Toyota 22RET engine. I had approximately
265K miles on it (my last car had ~400K) . It was using oil, fouling
most of the plugs, getting noisy, and had a cracked excost manifold...
It was time. At first, I was just going to have my regular mechanic do
a basic in vehicle rebuild. Then my naber, Ray, He convinced me to do it
"right". He offered to help to do the work (removal/instalation).
So, I decide to do it right. Thanks Ray for your help!
* Though several sources, I got recommendation's, to have
it rebuilt, at well known local machine shop, "Carr Parts". They tell me
1 to 2 weeks, it takes almost a month. Meanwhile I'm renting a car.
* I'm a profectionist, so I (mail) order many "Toyota"
parts. Also, I order sum extras from LC Engineering and Downy parts
(New cam, valve train, hi-volume oil pump, Non-Toyota (295 cc) OEM type
fuel injectors (20/20 hind sight, I wish I'd bought the Bosh 320 cc injectors,
instead - later u'll c), a 100 amp alternator (remember, I'M a HAM), and
a Centerforce One, clutch kit.
* During dismantling of the exterior parts of the engine,
I find that the 1.5 year old Turbo (~30k miles) housing (case) is CRACKED
%=(
(a known defect in Toyota cast iron parts). At the time of the
(turbo) rebuild the rebuilder was planing to have a *NEW* housing made.
But hadn't found a source to do the casting or machine work, yet; So, I
didn't get a new casting, instead a rebuilt one. The new turbo
has the new casting (he replaced everything)...
Do I have bad luck?
A month lator I get the rebuilt engine back from Carr Parts. At that time I got the real written warranty...
So, Meticulously, We reinstalled the engine, into the truck. This
all went ok. Start up, also went ok. Initial brake-in, went ok; except
first oil change...
* The 100 mile; oil consumption was a little hi, and the
oil was vary dirty for 120 miles and there was a slight miss.
* The 500 mile; oil consumption was a little hier, and
the oil was vary, vary, dirty for 530 miles and there was a miss,
and I found that the #2 spark plug was fouled.
* The 1000 mile; oil consumption was hi, 1qrt per 100 to 200
mile, and the oil was vary, vary, dirty for ~500 miles and there was a
miss, and I found the #2 spark plug fouled. It would only make it a week
or so before needing the spark plug to be replaced, and it needed a quart
of oil!
By now, I knew I had a problem!!!
So, I called the Machine shop, they didn't really think there is a problem,
"...Just need to let it brake in, more, ... just drive it more... Really
drive it (hard)
(No, I'm not going to say it, this is a rated, PG, web page ;=) ...
Get to 3 to 4,000 miles, then lets see..."
Well... There the experts, maybe (no, I'm not that gullible).
PART 2
So I spend many days after work and weekends, trying to find, the miss/fould
plug problem. I assumed, that the shop did not mess up, that maybe,
we missed sum thing. The first thing I thought, maybe it's an ignition
problem; I did lots of debugging, I replaced the, spark plugs again, cap&
rotor (PS. Borg Worner, are good (all brass) but seems to radiate more
EMI/RFI (radio static; there gray in color) than others. I like what Napa
Auto sells (It's also, all brass, but it's black). New, NGK Spark plug
wires, etc... Better, but still there.
So, maybe it's fuel injection, so I debug the full EFI/ECU, etc. system,
I replace, almost all the sensors, except the TPS, AFM, and the ECU (I
do this to be sure it not our problem, sum thing we didn't do). (Remember,
if I take it a mechanic, he'll shot gun, just like me, for $60-80, per
hour, but wont do any debug. And will extra mark up the price of the parts.)
Still there. Well maybe its' the non-Toyota injectors? Maybe the
#2 injector is leaking? Well, they (the injectors) help me (decide) to
replace them, one started leaking externally, the #4 (I find a small crack
on its' case). Before It started leaking, I decided to send my original
Toyota injectors to be "Re-built" (supper cleaned, tested (at room temperature)
characterized, and balanced). When I got them back I installed
them, they did work better, but the miss was still there (yes, I replaced
the #2 Spark Plug, again). It still fouled the plug, and still missed?
Well maybe, its the "cold start injector" leaking; I replaced it and its
controller. Still bad. OK; I replaced almost everything - I
give up.
Time to give it to a professional %=(
PART 3
By now, I had a good idea, that I had a engine problem, but I need
it to be proven. So, I ask around, who is really good at EFI/ECU
troubleshooting; The answer I get is, "Car Car". The other thing
there know for is, there more expensive than the Dealer. $450 later,
they find that its running real rich, they can't find anything, really
wrong, so it 'must' be the computer (the ECU) at $500 (my cost) - $1000
(there cost), part. And they won't guarantee that this will fix it. (no,
shit sherloc, it is sucking oil into the cylinder (And gas) and
can't bern it!, du...)
Meanwhile, its pinging, really sucking oil at 1qrt per 100-200 miles,
other noise' at start from a stop sign, in first gear (light, rod knock,
like noise).
OK. Im going to give it to my regular mechanic, "Santa Cruz Import
Truck" (I highly recommend them!). They do (again, I already
did, one, and it passed) a "compression check" and a "leak down cylinder
test" both look, ok? Then they do a "fuel rail, leak down test", and they
think they find sum thing. They, think, maybe the #2 injector is leaking?
(agents my better judgment, I order 4 new Toyota injectors (u don't
wana know what they cost) (Remember, if in the end, the machine shop tears
down my engine and gas (or whatever) has caused that cylinder to not seat,
then, all this, is my fault!) Guess what!!! NOT!!!
So, Marty, the owner (of SCIT) shows me how easy it is to miss install
the "oil control ring" and how easy it is to screw
up during installation into the cylinder.
I'm starting to think its either a "valve guide seal" or what Marty
sez (remember, it pass, leak down!?).
I have now eliminated, EVERY POSSIBLE THING!!! Except the ENGINE
(rebuild)! Well, by know, I'm to ~3,000 miles.
Now I can take to the machine shop, now they agreed to look at it
at 3k - finally...
PART 4...
I drop it off. They remove the head, and check it out, and supposedly
rebuild it. When the head is off they report they think they have
found what's wrong, there is a ~inch wide roundish gash in the #2 cylinder
wall, they think its a wrist pin come lose, but need to remove the engine
to inspect. They remove the engine, and find that the oil control
rings were miss installed. It made a 30 thou.'s gauge in the
cylinder. They decide to sleeve the one bad cylinder and rebore all
to 30 thousands over, and use new pistons. Apon one of my inspections,
I find that the heater valve switch pip is crunched (it was returned repaired
looking, and it seems to work. This all, took about 3 weeks...
They do all this no charge but refuse to pay for all the other expenses,
previous debug and repair and the several car rentals...
When I get my truck back...
PART 5...
I'm handed an extra 14 mm bolt, it appears to be a engine hardware
bolt, they cant find were it goes... Otherwise, all seems ok. But by the
time I get home it's got a miss. By the morning it ok, but not when
I get to work. I leave work a little early to check out what's going on.
I check out every thing I can't find any thing. So I decide to read
out the code out the ECU, which usually is useless. However, this
time I get a a code 7 and 11, both point to the TPS (throttle position
sensor). So I go look at the TPS and find that It's almost unplugged.
I find that the metal clip is missing, this is why it fell out. Actually,
the plastic housing of the connector is broken. I do a temporary
fix. It turns out you can't replace this part (no dealer parts available).
Luckily my mechanic has one from a scavenged wiring harness. I haven't
installed it yet... Also the hose to my exillary oil cooler and remote
filter has a gash and oil is seeping out. Luckily, it close to the
nipple, and I cut an inch of hose and reinstall...
Then I notice that the rear engine ground isn't connected, instead
of going to the firewall it goes down to the starter? I had to reposition
this back to where it belongs...
What I find...
PART 6a...
I still have a slight miss and serge, that I cant find... (but also
did both the car rentals, bad california gas, I guess?)
Up-date (1/01, 03/25/01, 01/01/02, 03/09/02), seem to mostly be the
center electrode inside the cap is gone? I replaced the cap and rotor,
new spark plugs, seem mostly ok. I think it's partially, the bad
california gas...
PART 7...
I send a letter spelling out why they need to pay my expenses.
I get no response...
I send a second letter spelling out why they should pay my expenses.
I get no response...
I send a third letter... I get no response...
Any one, know a good attorney (ya, i know, none are good, ha-ha) ???
Anyway, I obviously, I do not recommend, Carr Parts
(in Santa Cruz, Ca.)
(Editing for facts or accuracy, or spelling - later...)
Rev. 3-09-02a