Borrowed from my posting to ba.internet. I have the former Enhanced DSL service from PBI/SBC which comes with 5ea static IP addresses. We have one DSL line for the entire office complex for a total of about 20 computahs and 5 companies. Each company has its own IP address and router. To the best of Google's knowledge, there's no similar arrangement diagrammed on the interknot. dsl ===[ Alcatel 1000 ]==[ 8 port ]==[router]==192.168.1.xxx line [DSL bridge/modem] [ ethernet] [ hub ]==[router]==192.168.2.xxx [ ] [ ]==[router]==192.168.3.xxx [ ] [ ]==[router]==192.168.4.xxx [ ] [ ]==[router]==192.168.5.xxx The 5ea assorted routers need not be identical. In my mess, it's two Sonicwall SOHO routers, one DLink DI-604, one Netgear RT-314, and a FreeSCO Linux router. At $50/ea, the "extra" routers are of trivial cost. There is no requirement for using unique class C IP blocks for each of the LAN's. They can all be identical. However, it make keeping track of machines a bit easier and adds an additional layer of protection to prevent "accidental" sniffing of one of the other LAN's via patching the LAN's together (usually via wireless). I have a dedicated management workstation (ancient P75 laptop with 2ea ethernet ports) plugged into the hub to sniff traffic. It belches an alarm (MRTG SNMP trap) if the traffic is excessive as commonly found in worms and Kazaa. In effect, it's a crude intrusion detection system. That's why I use a hub instead of a switch. If you have no interest in monitoring traffic, I suggest a switch instead. (The landlord took one look at a 3Scum 24 port managed ethernet switch decided that he didn't want that big noisy thing in his nice quiet phone room). The above arrangement is for BRIDGED service, and will need some radical modifications to accomidate SBC's rediculous 5ea IP ROUTED service. I previously posted a proposed arrangement that would work with SBC's 5ea IP service, that requires an additional Netopia router. http://www.google.com/groups?selm=m0j8rv4bvp72f0s3tgq2igkpmif0fea049%404ax.com I still haven't tested it. (Holidaze, vacation, and lack of urgency). Anyway, that's how to share a single DSL line properly, with 5 different businesses. Each business can run its own servers, have their own domains, deal with their own port forwarding, and basically have the equivalent of a dedicated connection, sharing only the bandwidth. Plop a drawing on your web pile and proclaim that you can save business owners and neighborhood DSL co-ops some cash. ====================================================================== Here's another example of what can be done with 5ea static IP's. The customer wanted to offer free wireless internet access, but didn't want the wireless customer to see his office computahs. With one IP address, this would have required a DMZ, which would interfere with his port redirection configuration if he had only one WAN IP address. I decided that it was easier to simply have a seperate WAN IP address for the office and for the wireless, each with their own router. dsl ===[ DSL ]==[ 5 port ]==[office]==192.168.1.xxx (office LAN) line [ modem] [ethernet] [router] [ switch ] [ ]==[wireless]==192.168.2.xxx (laptops) [ ] [router ] [ ] [ ]==[wireless]==192.168.3.xxx (laptops) [ ] [router ] With this arrangement, the office LAN is totally isolated from the wireless LAN and the wireless customers never see the office network. The wireless router is actually an ethernet router (DI-604) and a seperate wireless bridge (DWL-900AP+) with power over ethernet adapters, which gives me the flexibility of locating the radio/antenna in the ceiling area. Sometime next week, I'll be installing a 2nd radio to deal with coverage issues between the first and 2nd floors. I'll be using Linksys BEFW11S4 wireless router (which the owner picked up cheap somewhere). It will also have its own IP address as there is no interest in connecting between wireless networks. So, the pitch line is that multiple static IP's offer isolation and security between different parts of a LAN and are useful for do-it-thyself coffee shop shared DSL wireless service. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D Santa Cruz CA 95060 (831)421-6491 pgr (831)336-2558 home http://www.LearnByDestroying.com AE6KS jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us jeffl@cruzio.com